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showing that the assad regime was mixing agents, mixing chemicals to make sarin gas. they're not telling us exactly what the evidence is, but what they are saying is they have multiple sources of intelligence. this suggests possibly some satellite imagery, some phone intercepts, maybe even some human sources on the ground giving them misinformation. >> at this point, what kind of military action might the united states be considering right now? >> when the president of the united states goes out there and makes a strong statement like he did today. >> that's commitment. >> you have to follow up it and do something. >> they're going to watch there carefully. when they see this move, they have to determine rapidly, what are assad's intentions. they're not sure about that right now. get other countries in the region, involved. don't forget, israel lies right over the border. the israelis may not be so patient and wait to see if the chemical weapons are going to be used. >> it's going to make everyone nervous. how deadly is sarin gas? >> 500 times more lethal than cyanide
showing that the assad regime was mixing agents, mixing chemicals to make sarin gas. they're not telling us exactly what the evidence is, but what they are saying is they have multiple sources of intelligence. this suggests possibly some satellite imagery, some phone intercepts, maybe even some human sources on the ground giving them misinformation. >> at this point, what kind of military action might the united states be considering right now? >> when the president of the united...
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>> i don't know why, anderson, but i think it's important to note that bashir al assad may interpret that as a green light for everything else. in other words, do everything up to but not including the use of chemical weapons. but at the same time, i do understand the concern about the use of nerve gas which is in their inventory, which depending on how heavily populated the area that they use it on, could result in unbelievable deaths that, you know, possibly in tens of thousands if they use the right kind of chemical weapon. so i can understand the administration's concern but maybe they don't realize that they are also sending a green light to bashir al assad that he can do anything short of that. >> what would it mean to try to stop chemical weapons from being used? >> i think it would have to be -- it would be very complicated. i don't think you could send enough american troops on the ground. i don't think that would be an option. you may have to try to take out the stocks from the air. we do know where a lot of them are. frankly, i don't -- i've had significant military backgr
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assad said he will not leave syria. the u.s. said he will be accountable for the battle against the syria people. >>> overnight the political fighting has turned lethal. state tv says at least five people were killed when supporters and opponents of morsi fought in front of the palace in cairo. they used tanks to control the situation. >>> john mcafee spent the night in a gat a mallen jail. he was arrested yesterday for entering the country illegally. he said he crossed the border from belize to seek asylum. he's wanted there for questioning in a murder. mcafee had been on the run for weeks. >> reporter: software innovator john mcafee came to guatemala for asylum but was taken into custody for entering the country illegally. he gave an interview before he was arrested i i'm now here and i'm going to speak out and speak out big file. >> reporter: mcafee had been living in belize supported by the millions he made from his software company. police want to question him in the recent murder of his neighbor. >> it's a convenient thing
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plus, is al assad planning his escape. and encouragement from democrats that want hillary to run for president in 2016. i'm wolf blitzer, you're in "the situation room." >>> we begin this hour with the fiscal cliff. it's only a phone call, but it's the most notable movement we have seen. the tax hikes take effect in only 27 days. our senior congressional kor respondespo -- >> today, president obama and john boehner spoke by phone about the fiscal cliff negotiations, but there is no progress. they still have a stand off over the rates. the president still wants to raise rates on the top 2% of americans. the speaker is not moving on that position. this comes on the same day that secretary geithner made it clear in language they have not used before, just how far they're willing to go in the administration to stand by those terms. >> is the administration prepared today go over the fiscal cliff? >> absolutely. there is no agreement without those rates going up on the top 2%. and they all get a tax cut on the first $250,000 of
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will assad do this as a last hoorah. and what will america do if it comes to it? >> i don't think we're being duped by the administration. there's a difference from 2003 in iraq. and the bush administration was eager to go into iraq. these days, the last thing the obama administration wants to do is go into iraq. in terms of will syria actually use them? i don't think we have any idea. what we do know, is they're not useful militarily. they're helpful in an negotiation, about getting them out. it's hard to see how they advance his cause. >> assad would face complete obliteration if he does this. and some say he wants asylum in venezuela or whatever. he's not a stupid man. why would he risk the wrath of the world ascending on him? >> it's hard to see how this advances his cause, except as part of the negotiation. if you're trying to get a better deal for your family, then, maybe it's useful. >> would this create an internal coup, with his background? i don't know how sane he is or not, and what he's done. he's killing his own people. he's butchering his own people.
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now, the assess smt that assad isn't ready to go. the u.s. says it hasn't seen anything in term of concrete offers. maybe assad's commanders think the boss is getting cold feet and might dessert them. >> next, 57% of americans say they'd vote for hillary clinton in four years. think about how cent elections have gone. that would be an incredible mandate. what does she say about iran? >>> and john mcafee still on the run after his neighbor was found murdered. martin savidge tracked him down and he is "outfront" next. sure don't you? [ nyquil bottle ] dude! [ female announcer ] tylenol® cold multi-symptom nighttime relieves nasal congestion. nyquil® cold and flu doesn't. so, the 5.3-liter v-8 silverado can tow up to 9,600 pounds? 315 horsepower. what's that in reindeer power? [ laughing ] [ stops laughing ] [ male announcer ] chevy's giving more. this holiday season, trade up to get the 2012 chevy silverado all-star edition for 0% apr financing for 60 months plus $2,000 cash allowance or get a total value of $9,000. five days later, i had a m
now, the assess smt that assad isn't ready to go. the u.s. says it hasn't seen anything in term of concrete offers. maybe assad's commanders think the boss is getting cold feet and might dessert them. >> next, 57% of americans say they'd vote for hillary clinton in four years. think about how cent elections have gone. that would be an incredible mandate. what does she say about iran? >>> and john mcafee still on the run after his neighbor was found murdered. martin savidge...
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even perhaps president assad himself. but so far, we haven't gotten there, the big question is can the u.s. react quickly enough if suddenly president assad says go and those bombs are loaded and those jets take off. >> all right, well, we will keep close track of this story. thank you very much for helping us out. >>> now folks, we switch gears back. we still have no fiscal cliff deal, but there's talk between president obama and tim geithner. congress has adjourned for a long weekend. that's kind of insane. eamon javers joins us. >> reporter: the president began his day this morning before an audience of business leaders and he continued his campaign of persuasion amongst some of the nation's top ceos. >> i am passionately rooting for your success. because if the companies in this room are doing well, then small businesses and medium sized businesses up and down the chain are doing well. if companies in this room are doing well, then folks get jobs, consumers get confidence, and we're going to be able to compete around
even perhaps president assad himself. but so far, we haven't gotten there, the big question is can the u.s. react quickly enough if suddenly president assad says go and those bombs are loaded and those jets take off. >> all right, well, we will keep close track of this story. thank you very much for helping us out. >>> now folks, we switch gears back. we still have no fiscal cliff deal, but there's talk between president obama and tim geithner. congress has adjourned for a long...
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speaking in washington yesterday, president obama issued a pointed warning to president bashar assad. >> the world is watching. the use of chemical weapons is and would be totally unacceptable. and if you make the tragic mistake of using these weapons, there will be consequences and you will be held accountable. >> the assad regime won't admit it has chemical weapons, but says if it did, it would not use them. >>> in egypt today, opponents of president mohamed morsi plan a huge protest march and a general strike. crowds have started to gather in cairo's tahrir square. holly williams is in cairo. holly, good morning to you. what's the latest there now? >> good morning, terrell. well, president morsi's opponents are calling this a final warning to the president and his islamist allies. they're expecting tens of thousands of people today, perhaps more. they're angry about two things. first of all, president morsi's power grab of 12 days ago in which he gave himself expanded new authority. secondly, a draft constitution, which we put to a referendum, a popular vote in two weeks time. crit
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how do we know that bashar al assad isn't doing the same thing right now? how do we know that the intelligence that the u.s., the international community is getting is really accurate that there are wmd stockpiles, weapons of mass destruction, sarin gas, mustard gas, in syrian? >> wolf, the key thing right now is that if assad is putting up a front, we're not going to know that unless we have good solid human intelligence on the ground. and that begins with interrogations of the key personnel that are involved, the scientists, research and development community, the military leaders, the commanders, that as fran indicated would give the directives to pull the triggers. those guys have to be rounded up. and you have to conduct interrogations. that's very tough. that's kind of basic intelligence work. and it doesn't start until you get on the ground and you start interrogating those guys. >> there's always concern. i remember there was a guy named curve ball providing the u.s. information supposedly about saddam hussein's wmd. >> it was one source. >> but he
how do we know that bashar al assad isn't doing the same thing right now? how do we know that the intelligence that the u.s., the international community is getting is really accurate that there are wmd stockpiles, weapons of mass destruction, sarin gas, mustard gas, in syrian? >> wolf, the key thing right now is that if assad is putting up a front, we're not going to know that unless we have good solid human intelligence on the ground. and that begins with interrogations of the key...
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we also don't know at what point would the assad regime re-sort to using sarin. it's my hypothesis that they will if they start getting slaughtered. it could happen. they will use it. >> sanjay, for people at risk in areas where assad regime might use them r or could use them or some other group, what can they do to protect themselves? is there something you can do? >> they don't have access to medications, the at row peen for for example. you have to goit of the area, which sounds simplistic. because it's odorless and tasteless and hard to detect, you have to get out of the area. you can get poisoned by ingestion and inhaling and touching it. it can be on your clothes, for example. you get out of the way and take off your clothes or anything exposed to it. soap and water and try to rinse your body. it's a heavier gas as compared to what else is in the area, so it lingers closer to the ground. getting to higher elevation can help. these sound like simplistic things but short of a medication given right away, there's not much else to do. >> it's really scary stuff
we also don't know at what point would the assad regime re-sort to using sarin. it's my hypothesis that they will if they start getting slaughtered. it could happen. they will use it. >> sanjay, for people at risk in areas where assad regime might use them r or could use them or some other group, what can they do to protect themselves? is there something you can do? >> they don't have access to medications, the at row peen for for example. you have to goit of the area, which sounds...
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would bashar al assad use them? >> it's an important question. i'm wondering, erin, whether this was a regime decision. you know, this activity surrounding chemical weapons, or they saw a local commander, perhaps, doing some things. and the international community wanted to send a message to everybody, including the assad regime, saying that one of your local commanders may be getting out of line here and may use these weapons. you better crack down on it. so it's not quite clear. the government knows more than we do but outside, it's not quite clear exactly what they were trying to get at here. obviously, stop the use of chemical weapons, but who was going to use them? what their intent was, we still don't know that outside. >> right. and certainly i would imagine how secure they are considering that rebels have links to al qaeda or extremist groups. there's lots of risks. and sources are saying that his mood may be at this point, look, i'm going to end up being killed anyway. if i try to leave, i'm going to be killed by my own people and they s
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updated plans if president assad uses chemical weapons. are the syrians, folks you talk to in northern syria, civilians, the rebels, are they ready for some sort of potential chemical strike? >> reporter: no, put quite simply, they are not. there's nothing that the population can do to defend itself. this is a population that has struggled at best to even try to defend itself against the bullets, artillery, bombs. when it comes to a chemical weapon, there's nothing that they can do. that is why this is such a terrifying possibility. people are aware the u.s. called it a red line, but that has been met with quite a fair amount of cynicism because they say that the u.s. has issued a red line warning in the past and they haven't felt repercussions from that. people are frustrated, angry, terrified at america's position when it comes to the syrian uprising. they feel as if the u.s. abandoned them to their fate. many of them are asking the question why is the u.s. saying chemical weapons are a red line. what about the 40,000 plus that have died
updated plans if president assad uses chemical weapons. are the syrians, folks you talk to in northern syria, civilians, the rebels, are they ready for some sort of potential chemical strike? >> reporter: no, put quite simply, they are not. there's nothing that the population can do to defend itself. this is a population that has struggled at best to even try to defend itself against the bullets, artillery, bombs. when it comes to a chemical weapon, there's nothing that they can do. that...
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now, the assessment is that assad isn't ready to go. the u.s. says it hasn't seen anything in term of concrete asylum offers. maybe assad's commanders think the boss is getting cold feet and might dessert them. >> barbara starr, thank you very much. >>> "out front" next, 57% of americans say they would vote for hillary clinton in four years. think about recent elections have gone. that would be an incredible mandate. what does she say about iran? >>> and john mcafee still on the run after his neighbor was found murdered. martin savidge tracked him down and he is "outfront" next. c-max, you see, c-max helps you load your freight, with its foot-activated lift gate. but that's not all you'll see, cause c-max also beats prius v, with better mpg. say hi to the all-new 47 combined mpg c-max hybrid. i have a cold... i took dayquil, but i still have a runny nose. [ male announcer ] truth is, dayquil doesn't work on runny noses. what? [ male announcer ] it doesn't have an antihistamine. really? [ male announcer ] really. alka-seltzer plus cold and cough
now, the assessment is that assad isn't ready to go. the u.s. says it hasn't seen anything in term of concrete asylum offers. maybe assad's commanders think the boss is getting cold feet and might dessert them. >> barbara starr, thank you very much. >>> "out front" next, 57% of americans say they would vote for hillary clinton in four years. think about recent elections have gone. that would be an incredible mandate. what does she say about iran? >>> and john...
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he said he had a message to assad and those around him. is that a message about future potential war crimes prosecutions or is it a message trying to encourage those around him to maybe get out of town, defect? >> well, i think it is -- it's sort of both to those around him, you know. you can stand with him and run the risk of being prosecuted or killed in a conflict, or you can turn but i think it's also a message not simply to the syrians around assad, i think it is also a subtler message to the iranian regime that is clearly continuing to support assad with weapons and training and advice, though i think it's both to those immediately around him and to iran. >> bob, given the iraq history, there could be some skepticism starts talking about intelligence, weapons of mass destruction. but there are multiple sources of intelligence in this indication. how serious is this threat, the fact they're actually possibly mixing the chemical agents? >> oh, this is deadly serious. on iraq, a lot of it was hypothesis before we went in 2003, as the bu
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assad could go into asylum tomorrow, the crisis would not end. if you do not have an orderly transition of power, if you have no assurance, who's in charge of syria the day after assad leaves, this part of securing the chemical weapons becomes perhaps even more dire. >> it's sobering stuff, and bob's assessment of the power of just one shell in a city like homs. we appreciate you to be on. >>> up next, while law makers have been battling over the fiscal cliff crisis, they managed to find time to vote on a treaty that would have protected disabled around the world. republicans blocked it with their vote. you might ask, why would they do that? you see, c-max helps you load your freight, with its foot-activated lift gate. but that's not all you'll see, cause c-max also beats prius v, with better mpg. say hi to the all-new 47 combined mpg c-max hybrid. of washington about the future of medicare and social security. anncr: but you deserve straight talk about the options on the... table and what they mean for you and your family. ancr: aarp is cutting
assad could go into asylum tomorrow, the crisis would not end. if you do not have an orderly transition of power, if you have no assurance, who's in charge of syria the day after assad leaves, this part of securing the chemical weapons becomes perhaps even more dire. >> it's sobering stuff, and bob's assessment of the power of just one shell in a city like homs. we appreciate you to be on. >>> up next, while law makers have been battling over the fiscal cliff crisis, they managed...
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but bashar al assad continues to deny pressure. reports say they are preparing chemical weapons components that might be used against rebel forces inside syria. chad sweet is the former director of operations with the cia, the former chief of staff with the department of homeland security. it's nice to have you with us. i should appreciate it. so the signs that i have just mentioned and kind of listed there are very ominous. not just for folks here in the united states who worry about the role of the united states, but also for people in the region and outside the region too. does this mean that we have operatives who are filling us in on what's happening with the chemical weapons components and the degree to which they are being put on to these war heads? >> it's highly likely that the combination of sources have provided this intelligence. some of it is coming from human intelligence from our spies as well as allies of the saudis and the turkish intelligence. but the bottom line is it's coming from a variety of technical means. s
but bashar al assad continues to deny pressure. reports say they are preparing chemical weapons components that might be used against rebel forces inside syria. chad sweet is the former director of operations with the cia, the former chief of staff with the department of homeland security. it's nice to have you with us. i should appreciate it. so the signs that i have just mentioned and kind of listed there are very ominous. not just for folks here in the united states who worry about the role...
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we did nothing to help those that bashar al-assad in there hurting and oppressing and killing. >> no. melissa: thank you so much for coming on. we appreciate it. >> it is always a pleasure. melissa: up next you think phe fiscal cliff is giving you a headache? we'll tell you why taking the plunge is giving a lot of doctors full-on ulcers. >>> plus california's plan to be the green energy leader could take businesses an consumers out at the knees. a bipartisan report warns governor jerry brown to step in. the head of it is here to explain why. i feel like he is not going to. we'll see. "piles of money" coming up. jerry brown is not going to step in. ♪ . ♪ male announcer ] how could a luminous protein in jellyfish, impact life expectancy in the u.s., re estate in hong kong, and the optics industry in germany? at t. rowe price, we understand the connections of a complex, global economy. it's just one reason er 75% of our mutual funds eat their 10-year lipper average. t. rowe price. invest with confidence. request a prospectus or summary prospectus with investment information, risks, f
we did nothing to help those that bashar al-assad in there hurting and oppressing and killing. >> no. melissa: thank you so much for coming on. we appreciate it. >> it is always a pleasure. melissa: up next you think phe fiscal cliff is giving you a headache? we'll tell you why taking the plunge is giving a lot of doctors full-on ulcers. >>> plus california's plan to be the green energy leader could take businesses an consumers out at the knees. a bipartisan report warns...
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concerns that the assad repeople may be cooking up recipes, mixing materials for chemicals. that possible preparation is taking place at more than one chemical plant in syria, officials say. u.s. intelligence shows nothing has been moved out of the facilities, however. and officials say there is no indication syria is on the verge of using chemical we papoweapon. in turkey monday, russian president putin called the deploy ment of the patriot missiles unnecessary. but tuesday, the russian foreign minister said any use of chemical weapons has grave implications. while down playing reports about syria. >> translator: we can call them rumors, but the syrian authorities are moving a stockpile of chemical weapons or that they want to use them. as soon as we hear such messages, we prepare. >> reporter: secretary of state hillary clinton spent the day meeting with her fellow ministers as they approved a plan to provide turkey with the missiles. nato says the number of missiles and their precise location along the border still needs to be worked out. it could be weeks before the equi
concerns that the assad repeople may be cooking up recipes, mixing materials for chemicals. that possible preparation is taking place at more than one chemical plant in syria, officials say. u.s. intelligence shows nothing has been moved out of the facilities, however. and officials say there is no indication syria is on the verge of using chemical we papoweapon. in turkey monday, russian president putin called the deploy ment of the patriot missiles unnecessary. but tuesday, the russian...
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hillary clinton saying today the future of syria cannot possibly include assad. in the netherlands sending patriot missiles to turkey aimed at protecting the neo member against possible syrian attack. maximum of 360 personnel will accompany two surface-to-air missile batteries. those are your headlines in the fox business network. get you back to dennis kneale. dennis: thank you. fiscal cliff survival kit, looking for a safe investment, muni bonds may be the way to go. so says the chief executive officer of front stone capital management who joins us from chicago. thanks for being with us. you like these munis even though you're the we ritter 5 there would be all kinds of defaults across the landscape. >> this is one of my favorite topics because we at bob brooks stone capital management have been very bullish in the 2008 crisis. it produced some stellar total return for our clients that include the interest on a tax rebate and appreciation. dennis: would you prefer that i as your client buy an entire bond or maybe ought to buy a basket in an e t f or something.
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they publicly denied that assad would use weapons on his own people. raising the question with his departure has the assad policy changed? bret? >> connor powell in the middle east newsroom. thanks. more on this with the panel. now a standoff of a different type. back at home. the fiscal kind. house republicans leaders calling this a bold counteroffer. that presents a fair, middle ground. the white house is saying it has nothing new with no details. it is a republican compromise solution to the impending fiscal cliff. spending cut and tax increases that both sides mean would mean recession. after what both sides called a frustrating weekend. today's development don't appear to break a log jam. not yet. ed henry begins our coverage. >> reporter: good evening. they are saying the plan is ridiculous, so much so they will not offer counterproposal to the g.o.p. counterproposal and say tonight unless speaker boehner gives in on raising taxes on the rich, the president is ready to go off the cliff. >> right now i'd say we are nowhere, period. nowhere. >> joh
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the moral hesitancy assad may have about using them. >> regardless of what happens to al assad, we had this threat, this problem, not only to us, but to our allies in the region. turkey, jordan, israel, all worry if assad falls, there must be a plan to secure these chemical weapon sites, but we should tell our viewers that u.s. militaries understood this problem and have been planning and work wg allies over the region over the course of the last 12 months. they have been planning for it. >> thank you very much. both of you. "outfront" next, a 20-year veteran of the navy accused tonight of being a spy. why officials think he was leaking crucial secrets to the russians and as two states prepare to -- sir richard bransens tells us why the war on drugs has been an utter failure. [ male announcer ] introducing... a new way to save on your prescriptions. it's the aarp medicarerx saver plus plan from unitedhealthcare. with this plan, you can get copays as low as a dollar through a preferred network pharmacy like walgreens -- where you'll find 8,000 convenient locations. best of all, this pla
the moral hesitancy assad may have about using them. >> regardless of what happens to al assad, we had this threat, this problem, not only to us, but to our allies in the region. turkey, jordan, israel, all worry if assad falls, there must be a plan to secure these chemical weapon sites, but we should tell our viewers that u.s. militaries understood this problem and have been planning and work wg allies over the region over the course of the last 12 months. they have been planning for it....
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it's ugly now because of assad. it could get ugly after. >> charlie, interesting he he's saying it probably will get uglier. >> two reasons he stepped down when he did, one is that he felt like he given his service in time. secondly, it was getting to the point where i was worried that i could not figure out what the reactions might be on the part of the other side. >> interesting. very interesting interview. thank you, charlie. >>> he egypt's embattled president returned to the presidential palace this morning. he left of the palace last night as thousands of demonstrators protesting his grab for power gathered outside the gates. holly williams is in cairo, following the political crisis. >> reporter: tens of thousands of protesters fell on to the streets in cairo and other egyptian cities, calling it a final warning to the islamist president, mohamed morsi, who critics say is behaving like a dictator. in cairo, protesters surrounded the presidential palace, chanting slogans calling for the end of the presidency. i
it's ugly now because of assad. it could get ugly after. >> charlie, interesting he he's saying it probably will get uglier. >> two reasons he stepped down when he did, one is that he felt like he given his service in time. secondly, it was getting to the point where i was worried that i could not figure out what the reactions might be on the part of the other side. >> interesting. very interesting interview. thank you, charlie. >>> he egypt's embattled president...
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could assad hang on for a few more months? >> it's very hard to say having said multiple insurgencies usually on the receiving end from vietnam to the middle east. it's hard to say--its easier to say when you have momentum. right now the resistence has momentum. how soon can that lead to the fall of sigh began saigon and that kind of thing. we're heading that way. the danger to avoid that, not only assad, but his adviser from the iranian force i've been on the receiving end of his actions in iraq, he's willing and capable of doing anything to preserve that regime. >> one last thing, even after the regime falls chemical weapons are not over. what you're afraid of is some of these extremist forces getting their hand on them, that will be a very difficult challenge for the united states. >> eliot: what leverage would we have after assumeing that assad falls, not only hope but we predict in the future, will we have the ability to deal with the insurgent forces. james jeffrey and joe cirincione thank you for joining me tonight. >>
could assad hang on for a few more months? >> it's very hard to say having said multiple insurgencies usually on the receiving end from vietnam to the middle east. it's hard to say--its easier to say when you have momentum. right now the resistence has momentum. how soon can that lead to the fall of sigh began saigon and that kind of thing. we're heading that way. the danger to avoid that, not only assad, but his adviser from the iranian force i've been on the receiving end of his actions...
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first, the two masters of the assad regime. iran and russia are against it. the regime of bashir aul awes youred would be taking huge risks if it started threatening the syrian population and surrounding countries with these types of weapons. also, there's a military reason why it would not necessarily make sense for bashir al assad to use chemical weapons. this, by the way, is the kind of analysis i've seen as well in other publications. chemical weapons would be difficult to deploy against a guerrilla force. why? because they fade away when confronted. you have their mixed population as well. when you aim a warhead loaded with chemical weapons at a population, who are you really targeting? it could kill even your own supporters. we have these two main reasons. >> why do you suppose we have other countries -- germany says it's going to send in soldiers to neighboring turkey. why do you suppose there is such anxiety and such fear around that country and the possibility that that could happen? >> well, within the context of what turkey asked nato for, the patr
first, the two masters of the assad regime. iran and russia are against it. the regime of bashir aul awes youred would be taking huge risks if it started threatening the syrian population and surrounding countries with these types of weapons. also, there's a military reason why it would not necessarily make sense for bashir al assad to use chemical weapons. this, by the way, is the kind of analysis i've seen as well in other publications. chemical weapons would be difficult to deploy against a...
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and really just send a signal to assad that this will only have one outcome. the important thing here is that is to show that in the end it is a matter of time. it's -- it's when and not if. now there are also, i think, signs that for russia and china, i think they would be prepared, possibly, to look at a way you could manage an outcome of this, so that you get some form of agreement that -- >> provide asylum, we're getting him out -- >> -- but for the rest of the world, such are the consequences of this disintegration are happening, most people look at any reason to get him out, get a new form of democratic constitution in, and then try and stabilize the situation. >> i'm going to make a very sharp turn to talk about something much more joyful, which is the news of the oil baby, whose birth is impending. we know that catherine is in the hospital now. what is the -- what's it like in, in london, in great britain, with this kind of news? people must just be going insane. >> well, you know, britain loves the royal family. so, and people are very happy, very joy
and really just send a signal to assad that this will only have one outcome. the important thing here is that is to show that in the end it is a matter of time. it's -- it's when and not if. now there are also, i think, signs that for russia and china, i think they would be prepared, possibly, to look at a way you could manage an outcome of this, so that you get some form of agreement that -- >> provide asylum, we're getting him out -- >> -- but for the rest of the world, such are...
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assure assad's chemical weapons. hundreds of u.s. and nato troops will soon be heading to the turkish border with syria to operate patriot missile defense batteries. this summer there was a task force in jordan after 150 u.s. special forces base north of the capital to work with the jordanians to secure an estimated 4 dozen chemical weapon sites. >> there will be consequences. if the assad regime make asterrable mistake by using the chemical weapons on their own people. >> syrian government says the leaked intelligence reports that seren gas has been mixed and loaded in canisters are a pretext for outside military intervention. some experts agree. >> this is a very imprecise weapon and it's likely that the winds might blow the gas in the city center. that is where assad's power is, is in damascus. >> the publicbe talk of a possible chemical weapons attack may be a means of pressuring assad. >> the united states wants to gain the high ground but jeff hyping. the -- overhyping. the more they make the threat real the mo
assure assad's chemical weapons. hundreds of u.s. and nato troops will soon be heading to the turkish border with syria to operate patriot missile defense batteries. this summer there was a task force in jordan after 150 u.s. special forces base north of the capital to work with the jordanians to secure an estimated 4 dozen chemical weapon sites. >> there will be consequences. if the assad regime make asterrable mistake by using the chemical weapons on their own people. >> syrian...
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whether assad would do that or whether he would say you know what? i can't hold onto my air fields anymore, i can't necessarily drive the insurgents out of some key territory they've established around damascus, but maybe with the sarin gas, maybe i can blanket the area and take back that particular tactical location. that may be the kind of thinking that they're working through in assad's inner circle. michael o'hanlon, thanks so very much. >> thank you, martin. >> we'll be right back. before cdw virtualized it. how? cdw and hp networking implemented a virtual application network that reduces the time to deploy cloud location. applications from months to minutes. with fewer bottlenecks like this. finally. charles! client golf. aim for the lake. really? a new way to save on your prescriptions. it's the aarp medicarerx saver plus plan from unitedhealthcare. with this plan, you can get copays as low as a dollar through a preferred network pharmacy like walgreens -- where you'll find 8,000 convenient locations. best of all, this plan has the lowest part
whether assad would do that or whether he would say you know what? i can't hold onto my air fields anymore, i can't necessarily drive the insurgents out of some key territory they've established around damascus, but maybe with the sarin gas, maybe i can blanket the area and take back that particular tactical location. that may be the kind of thinking that they're working through in assad's inner circle. michael o'hanlon, thanks so very much. >> thank you, martin. >> we'll be right...
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and president assad staying in power, could use such chemical weapons against his own people. from the defense secretary on down, the world be reacted to the news today. we begin with our chief foreign correspondent affairs, andrea mitchell. >> reporter: they warned today that the chemical threat is imminent, from a syrian regime that seems to be losing control. >> reporter: with the war turning against the syrian regime, fears rose of a nightmare scenario that once cornered the desperate bashar al-assad, may use chemical weapons against the world or against his own people. >> the whole world is watching, the whole world is watching very closely. and the president of the united states has made very clear that there will be consequences. >> reporter: u.s. intelligence as first reported by nbc news indicates that syria's military has loaded the precursor bombs, even a tiny bomb can attack the nervous system, killing within seconds or minutes, most of syria's sophisticated weapons are from russia, syria's most powerful ally. but today, they were so alarmed about the chemical thre
and president assad staying in power, could use such chemical weapons against his own people. from the defense secretary on down, the world be reacted to the news today. we begin with our chief foreign correspondent affairs, andrea mitchell. >> reporter: they warned today that the chemical threat is imminent, from a syrian regime that seems to be losing control. >> reporter: with the war turning against the syrian regime, fears rose of a nightmare scenario that once cornered the...
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jonathan, quite a debate about the asylum question for assad. and the question is the question is whether president bashar assad has taken the final decision to as he once said live and die in syria. if he does die, it's most likely to be, of course, at the hands of the rebels when they make their final push into the center of damascus, a push which most experts believe is coming. all whether president assad might now be willing to or trying to seek asylum in some friendly country. that would probably boil down to cuba, ecuador venezuela or russia. u.n. secretary general was asked about the asylum question today he did not seem to favor the idea. listen. >> the united nations must not allow any impunity whoever commits gross violation of human rights must be held accountable and should be brought to justice. >> that sentiment was echoed by officials at the u.s. state department who said there has to be, quote: accountability. the counter argument to that is that perhaps anything that gets assad out of syria and stops the slaughter of civilians m
jonathan, quite a debate about the asylum question for assad. and the question is the question is whether president bashar assad has taken the final decision to as he once said live and die in syria. if he does die, it's most likely to be, of course, at the hands of the rebels when they make their final push into the center of damascus, a push which most experts believe is coming. all whether president assad might now be willing to or trying to seek asylum in some friendly country. that would...
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and all it would take is the final order from syrian president assad. as the fighting grows more intense and syrian rebels close in on damascus, the syrian regime has turned very desperate. u.s. officials tell nbc news the syrian military has now loaded the pre cursor for bombs, that could be dropped from dozens of fighter bombers. this week, u.s. intelligence detected a flurry of activity here, near homes. today, while u.s. officials confirm the precursor chemicals are loaded, they must still be mixed together to create the deadly gas. the alarm shook the world, including president obama and secretary of state hillary clinton issued strong warnings to syria's president assad, there would be strong consequences if he used chemical weapons. >> they would lose any sort of backing they had with china and russia, in terms of blocking the vote. >> reporter: the chemical mix is devastating. iraq's saddam used it in 1988. u.s. officials stress tonight that as of now these weapons remain in the depots have not been loaded on to any planes, and that president as
and all it would take is the final order from syrian president assad. as the fighting grows more intense and syrian rebels close in on damascus, the syrian regime has turned very desperate. u.s. officials tell nbc news the syrian military has now loaded the pre cursor for bombs, that could be dropped from dozens of fighter bombers. this week, u.s. intelligence detected a flurry of activity here, near homes. today, while u.s. officials confirm the precursor chemicals are loaded, they must still...
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that is different from maybe the assad regime. he called all the freedom fighters as a terrorist or jihadists or al qaeda, like that. the situation or the change of dynamics of the revolution reflected on the dynamics of the free syrian army. there is no central command. there are different groups in different cities and different areas. since those areas are not geographically connected, it is very difficult, for security reasons, to bring up a central command that can think and strategizing about the military operation, and that is exactly what has happened. i have been in syria last month, visiting the areas. you can see the freedom fighters in different cities. all of them complain about the air force, and nothing to do about it. this is something out of their hands. at the same time, complaining of the lack of financial support they got from the opposition or international community. would that make the situation more difficult? despite that, all of these liberated areas, they became very excited. they start thinking about so
that is different from maybe the assad regime. he called all the freedom fighters as a terrorist or jihadists or al qaeda, like that. the situation or the change of dynamics of the revolution reflected on the dynamics of the free syrian army. there is no central command. there are different groups in different cities and different areas. since those areas are not geographically connected, it is very difficult, for security reasons, to bring up a central command that can think and strategizing...
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it's likely that at some point assad is going to fall. this particular group or some element of it will take over as the government of syria. we should want to have influence there given the importance of syria, and the importance of syria to iran. because if we can separate a new syrian government from the iranians that would be a major strategic advantage to the united states. >> eliot: michael, it certainly does seem that the trendline is not favorable to assad, that's good news. but is this another instance where we've been leading from have been perhaps one step too late and have not been forthright enough in supporting the opposition? >> you know, that may be, and i'm not surprised and i don't think we could have done much different here. syria is like iraq, you have a brutal dictator and a population in the middle of the middle east. you go in and try to own this country, so to speak you may wind up with an extended operation that at least partially resembles the two we've had over the last decade. i can understand the reluctant. i
it's likely that at some point assad is going to fall. this particular group or some element of it will take over as the government of syria. we should want to have influence there given the importance of syria, and the importance of syria to iran. because if we can separate a new syrian government from the iranians that would be a major strategic advantage to the united states. >> eliot: michael, it certainly does seem that the trendline is not favorable to assad, that's good news. but...
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the united nations with a dose of reality for president assad. >> whoever commits violation of human rights must be held accountable and should be brought to justice. >> the gas is a colorless and odorless gas. >>> plenty ahead. weather and traffic and all your top stories. fox 5 morning news at 4:30 starts now. good morning to you. it is thursday, or as some people like to call, it friday eve. it is a little bit chilly outside this morning. we expect that because it is almost christmas time, almost winter time. good morning to you. i'm wisdom martin. sarah simmons has the day off. let's talk about this with gwen. i know the not officially winter yet. but in our minds, winter time. >> i think the minute you hit the month of december, you start to feel like it is supposed to be really cold. and those 70-degree days, that was just a little bit of a tease, i think. but, yeah, we're back to reality, folks. prepare yourself and dress accordingly. not a lot of clouds this morning. yesterday, we had a lot of clouds and even some precipitation. here is a look at your current temperature. rea
the united nations with a dose of reality for president assad. >> whoever commits violation of human rights must be held accountable and should be brought to justice. >> the gas is a colorless and odorless gas. >>> plenty ahead. weather and traffic and all your top stories. fox 5 morning news at 4:30 starts now. good morning to you. it is thursday, or as some people like to call, it friday eve. it is a little bit chilly outside this morning. we expect that because it is...